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160. Closer Look: Epicurus Reader (extended)

Listen to Ellie and David discuss the teachings of the Ancient Greek philosopher, Epicurus, in episode 160 of Overthink!

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What does it mean to say that the good life is a life of pleasure? Although you might think of champagne and caviar, Hellenistic philosopher Epicurus actually considered the good life to be more about appreciating the simple things in life and letting go of the things that bring us only temporary pleasure but lead to pain in the long run. Why has Epicureanism so often been misrepresented, and what did Epicurus really say? In episode 160 of Overthink, Ellie and David investigate the teachings of Epicurus in The Epicurus Reader. They explain his four-part cure on how to life a better life, including why we shouldn’t be worried about death. They also offer critiques on his view of justice and its lack of application to political life. How can attaining ataraxia lead us to achieving eudaimonia and living the good life? In the Substack bonus segment, your hosts elaborate on whether or not Epicurus’s argument that we should not fear death is convincing.

Works Discussed:

Brad Inwood and Lloyd P. Gerson, The Epicurus Reader: Selected Writings and Testimonia


Highlight: Epicurus’s Four Part Cure

  1. What’s good is easy to get

    1. The good pleasure, or the absence of pain

  2. What’s terrible is easy to endure

    1. Do not add suffering to our pain; embrace life

  3. Don’t worry about death

  4. Don’t fear Gods or the gods in plural

  5. Ellie and David discuss more about points 3 and 4 in the episode! Namely (1) why would we fear them in the first place and (2) how do we overcome that fear?

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